U.S. & Libya: Many questions remain

After President Obama's March 28 address to the nation on the U.S. and NATO military intervention in Libya, many questions remain.

We have already spoken in these pages about our opposition to the intervention. Now that it has begun, the question is: how long will it continue?

Our lengthy military engagement in Afghanistan and Iraq should warn us that once begun, operations expected to require only a limited period of time can easily stretch into the indefinite future.

An end date should be set.

Another question is what role the U.S. will continue to play. President Obama spoke of a significantly lowered U.S. involvement because the main weight of military operations is being shifted to NATO. That is hardly reassuring.

Shifting responsibility for the no-fly zone, arms embargo and protection of Libyan civilians to NATO does not mean the United States no longer plays a significant role in the military effort, for the U.S. is by far the wealthiest and most powerful member of NATO. And if military action becomes long-term, U.S. involvement may well grow again.

In addition, there are divisions in NATO regarding the goals and scope of the operation, raising the risk of possible ground intervention.

Participants in Libya's uprising certainly deserved protection from the brutal attacks the Gaddafi regime unleashed against them. But military intervention hardly seems the best way to do so, as many countries including some who supported the UN resolution are starting to say.

It is ironic that an international conference of over 30 countries, to consider, in the president's words, "what kind of political effort is necessary to pressure Gaddafi, while also supporting a transition to the future that the Libyan people deserve," is being held after the military intervention began.

Had such discussions taken place earlier, one wonders if a consensus could have emerged for more powerful political and economic measures, short of military intervention, to protect Libyan civilians and open a space for a popular uprising.

There is also the obvious contradiction between the UN Security Council's emphasis on protecting civilians and the aim the president stated, to remove the "tyrant" Gaddafi. And, an obvious question being asked by members of Congress: Why was the U.S. military engagement not brought before that body?

We join those who call for an end to U.S.-NATO military action and a negotiated solution to the crisis. Our country cannot afford to find itself mired in a third military adventure. Call your representative and senators and demand a speedy end to U.S military involvement in Libya. The peace majority in the U.S. needs to be heard.

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  • A ceasefire would do to let the Libyan people, who are members of the AU--African Union set the negotiations for a collective agree as democracy, so the internal and exturnal forces could go home and live in peace and re-tool to the renewables.

    This in fact was suggested as the solution just before the Imperialist Camp attacked Libya. The AU is all countries in Africa except Morocco and the call for the ceasefire originated from the meetings held by the African Unity.
    The Imperialist Camp poo-pood the call for a ceasefire as a phoney trick by Kadaffi, and forthwith fired the tomahawk missles by the hundreds and launched the newest jetfighter-bombers on the Libyan Nation.

    This in global terms has a meaning such as the Imperialist Camp, true to Euro-centric tradition, launched that aggressive war against all Afican people through the membership in the African Unity.

    Obama transfers the aggressive war to NATO is a farce, because NATO is fully controlled by the Pentagon and the U.S. Imperialist military.

    This shows that while the agents of the U.S. special forces, and C.I.A. and the MI 6 of Britain have been on the ground in and around Libya for decades inciting violence for the overthrow of Gadffi, and the libyan government for the purposes to own and control the flow of Libyan Oil, which they consider the best sweet crude on the planet with the least refining costs.

    Libya has an estimated 47,000,000,000 barrels which is the largest deposit in Africa. That is big on the Imperialist camps list of reasons for doing an invasion, and occupation. It is too early to say for sure which way the class struggle will take, but the U.S. Imperialists have 4,000 combat marines off the coast already and Britain has 800 elite special forces ready at a minutes notice to land and occupy.

    That is not off the table says Obama who was part and parcel of the plans to put those troopers there. It also remains to be seen if the No-fly-Zone (and act of Aggressive war) will continue raining bombs and missles on the libyan infastructure, hitting civilian targets such as hospitals, schools, and means of production such as factories etc. with a war criminal record now of hundreds of innocent civilians already killed.

    Targeting and killing civilians is a war crime in international law says the Geneva Conventions of war. The U.S. Imperialist military and its Pentagon partner has a record of breaking and ignoring national and international laws when it deliberately aggresses against countries it has in its cross hairs.

    Don't forget Libya was bombed by the U.S. fighter-bombers in the early eighties and they killed one child of Gadaffi's and wounded another. Such planning and doing of aggressive war is said in the Nuremburg Trials (1945-46) chaired by the U.S. Judge Jackson, to be the supreme international crime on the planet earth, as it actuates all other crimes high, low, big, and small in a chain reaction of events that causes a wave of destruction globally. He further says that it is the supreme international crimes whether Germany does it or the U.S.A. does it.

    The U.S. Constitution is signed on to that anti-fascist covenant and the U.S. Constitution says that all international treaties to which it is signed on to must be regarded as the supreme laws of the land. This shows that the U.S. Imperialist system since 1945 has been violating and breaking the whole system of anti-fascist covenants by aggressive wars against at least 70 countries or more since the second world war.

    The United Nations Charter says that it is founded by the anti-fascist fighters to make sure that aggressive war is just a long distant memory for the comming generations. The present security council resolution declaring resolution 1973 allowing a no-fly zone, an admitted aggressive war act, is in violations of the United Nations Charter and that is because the Imperialist Camp controls the security council by a vote of 10-5.

    This shows that the General Assembly which is the democracy and collective agree of the majority is disallowed by veto and other economic tricks and jerrymanering of the war making Imperialists, has subverted the United Nations and turned it into a war machine for Imperialist plunder and destruction. The same as they did to the league of Nations previously, a fact that Albert Einstein commented on in the twenties of last century, when he noted that the central council was contolled by Imperialist war makers.

    Hence two organizations founded to bring peace and justice and democracy to the worlds people, and in their name have been subverted to facilitate the empires of plunder and war for resources to flourish with war, after war, after war, and all against the Charter of the United Nations which the Charter stands as the UN's raison-d'-etre.

    Libya is a paid member of the United Nations and was not threatening Britain, France, or the United States of America, however those three empires of Imperialist and colonial aggression have been killing the ecological green organic balances of Africa and plundering its resources for hundreds of years and enslaving its people.

    This new act of aggression is nothing new and it is a lie to say that it is done for humanitarian reasons. The U.S. Imperialist Oil monopolies resent losing Libyan oil when Gadaffi nationalized it in 1969, and they have been covertly organizing since that time to return to control it again, and they are there now committing what is considered nationally and internationally war crimes by the second world war veterans who initiated the anti-fascist covenants.

    These include the fact that they set the liberation side as ending aggressive war as any nations foreign policy and making the new way forward as collective agree as democracy to settle disputes between nations. Study the anti-fascist covenants and you will see a clear path to liberation.

    These are the Nuremburg Trials, Geneva Conventions of war, the world court of the Hague (international criminal court) United Nations Charter (which as the majority should have the veto over the Security council the tiny minority) the international war crimes tribunal (Bertand Russell Style) and the United Nations resolutions, against torture, war crimes and against illegal WMD etc. also the U.S. manuel of military conduct.

    In point of truth the U.S. Imperialist wars of aggression against the peoples of the worlds' Holyland is a worst sort war crime ever done on the planet earth and it is U.S. Imerialist Military that is leading the Imperialist camp and the world down the path of tyranny and ruin throughout the globe. Viva socialist liberation.

    End pollution wars, not endless wars for more pollution. Re-tool the entire industrial revolution to the renewables such as wind, tidal, and solar power which translates to electricity and is more power than society can use. End fossil fuel pollution of the enviroment, and atomic energy (Fukushima atomic power plant poisoning of the whole web of life) Shut all Atomic Nuclear Power Plants globally as failed twentieth century technology before they inevitably poison the worlds livability.

    Posted by Union Jack, 04/06/2011 1:17am (3 years ago)

  • I agree with the People's World view that the US left has a major role to play in stopping this war against Libya. The case needs to be made again and again.

    Are you familiar with the recent statement of the Committes of Correspondence on the US/NATO military strikes in Libya? They wrote:

    "Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), Barbara Lee (D-CA) and a few
    other Members of Congress are standing up and speaking
    against this threat to our Constitution, the inevitable
    loss of our livelihood, the lives of our soldiers and
    the people of Libya. We strongly urge others in
    Congress to open debate on this matter, and cut off the
    funds supplying it.

    Many mass actions are scheduled in the coming days and
    weeks against the efforts to impose austerity measures
    and against the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    We urge the formation of `Jobs Not Wars' contingents to
    join them, raising the banner of `Hands off Libya, Stop
    the Bombing Now!', `Let Libyans Shape Their Own
    Future!' and `Bring ALL Our Troops Home Now!'"

    These are all perfectly good slogans and the overall view does not seem to be much different from the sentiments expressed by the PW's recent editorial statements. So, the People's World could play an important role in raising these points and trying to pull together a left movement to promote these views. I hope you will take advantage of the confluence of views on issues like the war in Libya in particular and imperialism in general and push for it.

    Nobody seriously in contact with reality believes this war against Libya is going to go away soon, or that any of these issues are going to be corrected by military force.

    Thank you for the very clear statement of your views.

    Posted by Dave Cunningham, 04/01/2011 3:27am (3 years ago)

  • Why is it the during these time when both major parties are wringing their hand over "deficits", that our government can find millions and billions of dollars to kill people abroad with and no questions asked, while cutting back on social programs that help people at home?

    Posted by John Whiskey, 03/31/2011 10:04pm (3 years ago)

  • It is time for the Democrats to put up or shut up.
    We are now spending money on yet another Middle East WAR when the other 2 were undeclared Wars have not been finished.
    Just remember the Democrats gave us Viet Nam and this little excursion is just adding more debt and lives to the other unnessary ventures with no end in sight.
    It is time to get out and stay out.

    Posted by SwampFox2U, 03/31/2011 9:22pm (3 years ago)

  • It's common, as in this article, to refer to our now three military adventures in progress, which presumably include Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. But shouldn't it really be four, with Pakistan?

    Posted by Eric, 03/31/2011 4:03pm (3 years ago)

  • It's just being reported today that Obama signed a presidential finding two weeks ago that authorizes covert support for the forces battling Qaddafi. We need to demand no U.S. intervention of any type in Libya.

    Another development to keep our eyes on is the report of ties between tha Libyan rebels and al Qaida. It looks like NATO is setting the stage to wipe out the opposition forces after they oust Qaddafi.

    Posted by Cathy Goodman, 03/30/2011 5:31pm (3 years ago)

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